Month: August 2023

196 – Creativity and Brain Health with Guest Tina Yeager, Part 2

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Creativity and Brain Health with Guest Tina Yeager, Part 2 Write from the Deep Podcast with Karen Ball and Erin Taylor Young

Many things contribute to our creativity as writers, but there’s one thing that is vital for our creativity: brain health. Too few of us know, though, how to nurture and maintain brain health, which is where our wonderful guest, Tina Yeager, comes in! Listen as she shares her wisdom and insights. 

About Tina Yeager

Award-winning author, speaker, and life coach, Tina Yeager hosts the Flourish-Meant podcast and Flourish Today on Christian Mix 106 and publishes Inkspirations Online, a weekly writers’ devotional. She has been licensed as a counselor since 2005. Tina Yeager serves as director of traditional groups with Word Weavers International and as an active member of the Christian Women in Media Association. For life coaching tips or to book her as an event speaker, visit tinayeager.com. Look for her books, Beautiful Warrior: Finding Victory Over the Lies Formed Against You and Upcycled: Crafted for a Purpose.

As a special treat for our listeners and readers, check out Tina Yeager’s free nutrition guide.

Thanks to our sponsors on Patreon, we’re able to offer an edited transcript of the podcast!

Erin: Welcome, listeners, to the deep. We’re excited that you’re here. We’re continuing our fabulous discussion with the fabulous Tina Yeager, talking about God’s design for creativity and brain health. I know you guys are going to want to jump in with us. 

Karen: So let’s talk about brain health. Let’s talk about how that ties into creativity, how we can nurture that, what we can do about brain health, if anything, and how we can not do things that can damage it. 

Tina: Our brain is an amazing work of the Creator. It is an incredible organ. The neat thing about our brain is that it’s plastic, and it has the ability to regenerate, repair itself, and recover more than you would ever imagine.

That’s the good news about the brain, and there are ways that God has given us to be able to take good care of our brain and keep it healthy. One of those things are the things that he’s given us to eat. The whole-foods, God-created diet. If you exercise an anti-inflammatory diet, that is going to be best for your brain.

There are certain nutrients in that that are going to be beneficial to the brain. Omega three fatty acids. Magnesium is also really good. Exercising healthy nutrition to feed your brain is important. 

A lot of times when we’re emotionally unhealthy, we turn to unhealthy food because we’re trying to comfort ourselves in that. But that food actually does a double whammy. It not only doesn’t help us emotionally, because there’s a spike and a crash that happens with those foods, but it also doesn’t help us physically. It inhibits the brain’s functioning because it’s inhibiting the gut’s functioning. 

All of your neurochemistry is actually developed first in the gut. You need to pay attention to your gut health, so that your brain health is going to be in balance. One of the ways that we need to deal with that is bipedal exercise. That helps with gut health. It also helps with oxygenating your brain. Your brain needs plenty of oxygen in order to operate, and most of us do not breathe as deeply as we should during the day.

Are you getting enough oxygen to your brain? That could be breathing in deeply through your nose, holding that for four seconds, exhaling slowly through your mouth, and filling your diaphragm and lungs, and then emptying your diaphragm. 

Karen: I’m doing this as you’re talking. It’s hysterical! I’m being obedient.

Tina: Yes, that’s awesome! Actually that will also relax your muscles. One of the things that’ll do is it’ll help you get into that divergent thinking, that theta brainwave state in which you’re able to daydream and think of creative ideas. 

Creative flow happens in the theta wave, the lower brain wavelength brain states. You need to get into those instead of constantly being on your blue light wavelengths and keeping yourself on high alert in a beta and alpha and even a gamma brain wavelength state. 

Make sure you’re turning down those lights and taking time to not focus on the blue wavelengths. Get yourself in sort of a dimmer daylight spectrum and lower light level, and then get to breathing and relaxing. That’ll help you get into that creative flow a little bit better.

Karen: Interesting. I’ve been doing some research into the whole fight or flight syndrome for a lot of different reasons, but being constantly in that fight or flight, which God developed in us when he created us so that in emergency situations we could make the proper response and our body physiologically reacts to fight or to fly. Because of the entire physiological construction of who we are, if we’re in a dangerous situation or if we’re in a stressful situation, our body says, “Okay, fight or flight? And whichever one you’re going to do, I’m going to kick in and we’ll all work together to make that happen.”

But today’s humanity, people today, they spend so much time in that fight or flight syndrome because they get stressed out about things that aren’t life threatening, but they get stressed out about work, they get stressed out about relationships, they feel life threatening or relationship threatening or a threat to the lives that we enjoy, and so we react in that way.

As a result, your brain health goes straight downhill. Because when you’re in that constantly, instead of just in the emergency itself, it ends up being a negative influence rather than positive. 

Tina: Yes, if we apply the things that our brain is meant to do to the wrong situations, it can often be counterproductive. That’s absolutely true with anxiety, fear, untreated trauma responses, any of those things. Absolutely true. 

We want to make sure that we do a scan with the Holy Spirit and check to see if we’ve got any blocks to our health, our physical health, our brain health, our emotional health. All of those things work together. They’re not separate processes. They all impact each other. 

So if you’re experiencing an untreated trauma situation, It’s important to make sure that you go to find a Christian therapist, a life coach, if it’s applicable to life coaching or a Christian counselor, if you’re really in deep trauma due to some childhood abuse of some kind and dealing with that and help that be removed from being a block to your fulfillment of peace and your purpose. 

Erin: Yeah. I think, Karen, what you were talking about, too, as far as the fight or flight, I was reading about that at one point, and that’s like your sympathetic nervous system is engaged. But really, it’s the parasympathetic nervous system we want engaged more. That’s the one that’s the rest and the digest, and that’s the one that we want to learn to engage. 

But so much of our world is on sympathetic overdrive. It’s the gas pedal, it’s the constant rush. It’s the constant stress. You’re right, Tina, we need to figure out when that’s happening, why that’s happening. There could be lots of reasons, as you suggest, and some of them could be a deep trauma.

Some of it could just be we’re rushing around to get our kids here, there, and everywhere. It’s just life. So we need to learn how to go back and slow down, because you can’t be creative in sympathetic overdrive. You can’t be creative when you’re on that gas pedal all the time.

You’ve got to get the rest time, the digest time. I don’t know how else we could process and think and pray and check in with the Holy Spirit. 

I also was reading about the possibility of joy helping us grow in resilience and joy helping our brain health, which I thought was interesting. What are your thoughts on that, Tina? Have you heard anything about that?

Tina: The thing that joy does is if we’re using it as a way of praising God and thanking God and worshiping God, that connects us with God. It welcomes him into our presence, and when we worship, we see the power of God fall down upon us.

There is a power in the presence of God that inhabits our worship. Scripture says that God inhabits the worship of his people. When you are praising God and you’re worshiping God, that allows God to inhabit you with healing power, with anointing, with all the powerful works of the Holy Spirit. There’s all kinds of things that that invites into your body, your mind, and your soul.

That allows you to be powerful over the things that would normally block you, hold you back and get you to think about how the objects and the obstacles around you, maybe even facts, could be bigger than your God. You might not consciously be thinking it’s bigger than God, but when you’re stressing and obsessing, that’s when you’re starting to get in that mindset of unconsciously thinking, “Maybe God can’t help me out of this.”

Karen: We hear so often about putting on the full armor of God, and we envision ourselves as warriors with the belt of truth buckled around our waist and the breastplate of righteousness in place, and we think that that’s all active. But in reality, that preparation is done through study.

It’s done through worship. It’s done through seeking God in prayer. It’s done through using our brains and stillness and silence to go into the Word and dwell in there with God’s truth so that we do know what the belt of truth is, that we understand it inside and out, and so that we are ready, when the day of evil comes, to stand firm.

It’s not saying you need to have that on and fight every single day. It’s saying get ready for when the day of evil comes. Get ready in stillness. Get ready in immersing yourself in the Word. Even for your writing, get ready in stillness before you put your fingers on the keyboard. Be in the Word. Talk to God in prayer. Spend time letting him speak to you so that when you finally start the story that he’s given you to produce, you do it with his words and not with what you think is going to be best.

You don’t have to be active all the time. In fact, you shouldn’t be. 

Erin: I love that. So, Tina, what do you think you would say to the person who, maybe they’re just burned out, they just don’t feel creative lately, and now they’re discouraged because they’re just feeling like a total creativity black hole. What would you say to try to help get them back on their feet?

Tina: We need to approach creativity like children. When we were children, we were all creative. There was actually a study done by secular scientists that showed and proved that 99%, something like that, of all five-year-olds had all the markers of creativity. But we unlearned that down to a level of 2% in adults. 

Karen: Oh, my word. 

Tina: We’re unlearning our creativity that we were born with because we’re choosing to believe what the world is telling us about who we are, whose we are, and what we can do. 

Going back to what we did as children, creativity was fun. Creativity was play. Creativity was connecting with God and with others in joy and wonder. Get yourself back into a place where you can experience wonder and joy. 

Go out and play. While you’re at it, do some bipedal exercise, meaning ride a bike, walk, do something with both sides of your body at the same time, because that actually exercises both sides of your brain and it creates neural pathways that increase the corpus callosum, which is the center of the brain. It creates that genius factor, that spatial relational thinking pattern that allows you to be able to think more creatively. 

I like to go waterfall hunting when I get a chance. It’s a bipedal exercise. I go out in nature. I’m worshiping the Creator. I’m looking for something to bring me an experience of awe and wonder. 

Now, if you don’t happen to live in North Carolina where there’s a abundance of waterfalls like I do, you can go to an art gallery. You could go anywhere that gives you an opportunity to experience awe and wonder. Get outside of your own project and look at some other creative works and play with them.

Play in some things that are not what you’re planning to sell. It’s not work. It’s just fun. Play with paint, play with clay, play with gardening, play with cooking. Something that’s going to get you to experience joy in the process of being creative. That neural pathway will come back, and you’ll begin to experience childlike wonder again, especially if you’re playing in your relationships.

Did you know that relationships are also based on play? We bond with people through play. So, with your children, with your husband, with your family members, with your best friends, go play together. That will also invite the Holy spirit in your worship and your experiences together to come and inhabit you and bring you back to that childlike sense of joy, wonder, and play that is a wonderful fertile ground for your creativity to grow in. 

Erin: I love that. I think what you’re really saying, too, about that creativity is that it’s not judged. We don’t judge, like, our kids sandcastle. That’s play. If we could do the same, if we could play in a non judgmental way. If we could just be like, “It doesn’t matter. Nobody’s going to critique this. It can be any way I want.” That’s what we need.

It can be completely unnecessary. I read that elsewhere. This guy, Todd Henry I think, he called it unnecessary creativity, which is just, it’s for you. It’s just to stretch your creative muscles. I love that. You’re right. We all need to play more. 

But I do have one question that I just want to circle back on. You’ve used the word bipedal, I think, exercise. Can you define that? You said that it helps both brain halves work together. What is bipedal first of all, and how actually did that work again?

Tina: Bipedal is just using both sides of your body in exercise like walking or biking or, if you really have to, jogging. I don’t personally run unless something with teeth is chasing me. Just do whatever is going to feel good for you, and enjoy using both sides of your brain. 

They autopsied Einstein’s brain. They autopsied him to see what was different about his brain and they found that he had an enlarged corpus callosum because he often did bipedal exercise. You see that with several of our greatest geniuses in history. They too would go out and go for walks when they were thinking about a project. They would go out for a bike ride when they were thinking about a project.

You can’t really multitask two cognitive activities at the same time. That’s where we get burned out because your brain uses a lot of energy to switch—which is really what it’s doing, it’s not multitasking—from one cognitive activity to the next cognitive activity. 

But you can do a physical activity while you’re doing a cognitive activity, and that actually empowers you to do better at the cognitive activity. So if you’re studying, if you’re listening to a podcast while you’re walking, that can actually make that information sink in better. 

Erin: Okay, so you guys go get on your headphones and listen to this while you’re walking or biking or whatever. 

That is very cool information. This has been cool. Tina, do you have any final words of wisdom or encouragement you want to leave our listeners with? 

Tina: You already have everything that you need. The Lord told us in scripture that we were granted every spiritual blessing, so you have everything you need.

It’s just a matter of settling down all of the distractions and all of the blocks and allowing the healing power of the Holy Spirit just to flow into you and restore your connection with him so you can access it. 

In some ways you may need to physically make some changes to make your machine work better, to make your instrument of yourself work better. So there’s some physical aspects. You do need to hydrate. You do need to breathe. You do need to eat for your perfect nutrition for your body. You do need to sleep. Yes, we do need to sleep. You don’t need to wait until you’re dead to sleep. That is important. 

There are a lot of things that we physically need to do, but first and foremost, we need to stay connected with the power of Creativity Himself, with Jesus and the Holy Spirit he’s given us. 

Karen: All I can say to that is amen!

Erin: And amen! Thank you so much for being here, Tina. 

Tina: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate the opportunity to share with you and your listeners.

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Thanks so much to our August sponsor of the month, Priscilla Sharrow! She’s working on her memoir called Bonked! Life, Love, and Laughter with Traumatic Brain Injury, which will release with Redemption Press. Learn more about Priscilla at her website priscillasharrow.com and follow her blog for the TBI/PTSD community.

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195 – Creativity and Brain Health with Guest Tina Yeager, Part 1

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Creativity and Brain Health with Guest Tina Yeager, Part 1 Write from the Deep Podcast with Karen Ball and Erin Taylor YoungAs writers, creativity is a crucial component of our lives and our work. But what exactly is creativity and how do we get more of it? Guest Tina Yeager shares some surprising answers as we explore God’s design for creativity.

About Tina Yeager

Award-winning author, speaker, and life coach, Tina Yeager hosts the Flourish-Meant podcast and Flourish Today on Christian Mix 106 and publishes Inkspirations Online, a weekly writers’ devotional. She has been licensed as a counselor since 2005. Yeager serves as director of traditional groups with Word Weavers International and as an active member of the Christian Women in Media Association. For life coaching tips or to book her as an event speaker, visit tinayeager.com. Look for her books, Beautiful Warrior: Finding Victory Over the Lies Formed Against You and Upcycled: Crafted for a Purpose.

As a special treat for our listeners and readers, check out Tina’s free nutrition guide.

Thanks to our sponsors on Patreon, we’re able to offer an edited transcript of the podcast!

Karen: Hey, guys, welcome to the deep. We’re so excited that you’re here with us today, and we’re even more excited because we have a guest, Tina Yeager. We have a wonderful topic for you today.

We’re going to be talking about creativity. Yes, creativity. When God created us, he imbued us with his creativity. We want to talk about what creativity is and how brain health relates to it. 

Erin: Indeed. Tina Yeager is an award-winning author. She’s an inspirational speaker and a life coach. She also hosts the Flourishment Podcast and publishes Inkspirations Online, a weekly devotional for writers.

She’s won over thirty writing awards, including a 2020 Golden Scroll Award. She’s been licensed as a counselor since 2005 and has over twenty years of experience teaching parenting and writing skills, communications, inner healing, and spiritual growth. She holds a BA in creative writing and an MA in counseling, and she just does so many other things, too!

We’re delighted to have her here with us again because we talked to her in February. That was episode 183. We talked about why writers get blocked when they’re digging into difficult emotional areas. You might want to check that out as well. We’re happy for Tina to be here again, bringing her wisdom and experience.

Welcome, Tina. 

Tina: Thank you so much, Erin and Karen. I am delighted to be back on the show. It’s always an honor to chat with you. 

Erin: We want to open with asking you, what does the deep mean to you? 

Tina: Well, the last time I had a different verse that I focused on. Today I really felt led to bring up 1 Corinthians chapter 2, specifically verses 10 and 11, where it says, “The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God, for who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them. In the same way, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.”

I just really felt like getting deep in with the Spirit today was going to flow along with that line of becoming creatives created in the image of a Creator.

Erin: Mmm. I love that. 

Karen: Yeah, that’s really good. 

Erin: Deep things of God. Cool. Well, okay, let’s jump in to creativity. What would you say creativity even is? How would you define that? 

Tina: Creativity breathes life into all of our human experiences. It is not just art. That’s what we normally think of when we think of creativity.

It’s actually our ability to problem solve. To make something happen that isn’t already there. That’s looking outside of what exists to what could be, and that is important for every area. It’s important for our jobs. It’s important for the marketplace. It’s important for our relationships, making those work well. 

It’s important for our physical health for us to find solutions. It’s an important mindset to have. It’s important for our emotional well being because we cannot get inner healing without thinking creatively. 

It’s also important to us spiritually. Perhaps first and foremost, we need to believe we were created in the image of a Creator who can do all things, who is filled to overflowing with infinite possibilities. Therefore, so are we. 

Karen: That’s amazing. 

Erin: There’s so much to unpack there. 

Karen: No kidding. 

Erin: Let’s just even start with what you were saying. With us being created, I keep thinking, too, that we are living, new creations. When we come into Christ, we are a new creation. We’re originally a workmanship that God made, right? But now we’re walking in Christ. We’re new. We’re like this new piece of creativity. 

We don’t know what we’re going to ultimately be tomorrow because this creative process in us keeps transforming us, keeps changing us and sure, closer to the image of Christ, but also just new things we learn. I’m just thinking, I love what you said, Tina, because creativity is about so much more than just the arts.

It’s just this blossom of who we can be tomorrow or what we can do. It’s just, it’s cool. 

Tina: Yes, it’s our fulfillment. It’s potential. It is so many things. 

Just like Ephesians 2:10 says, you were created in Christ Jesus. That is that new creation process to do good works, which God, the Creator, the ultimate Creative, created in advance for us to do. He’s already made these works. He’s already got this story for our lives all planned out and the stories from our lives, those works that he’s having us do, are spilling out into creation from us. 

He is an amazing, creative God. He is the ultimate artisan and the ultimate problem solver. We need to remember that we’re under the authority and the power of that as we exist and as we create. 

Karen: Too few of us realize that and live that way. We don’t recognize being under the authority of Christ means that we can tap into that authority. We can call on God to enlist and release his spiritual warriors into our lives to help us battle those things that tend to obstruct any creativity, that tend to try to tear down not just our inner spirit but our relationships and our lives and keep us trapped in a sense of despair when we have at our fingertips, at our heart tips, we have access to the greatest creativity and the greatest Warrior and the greatest Fighter on our behalf in existence. 

Tina: That is so powerful, and we are connected with God as life, as the source and the origin of life, and that is part of that creative process. It’s the beginning of new living ideas, new living work, and new living words as well.

Erin: I was looking online about different things about creativity as I knew we were going to talk about this. I saw one quote that said, “Creativity is the act of turning new and imaginative ideas into reality.” 

When we connect that with what you were saying, Tina, about God and his workmanship in us and his good works that he prepared, he’s the ultimate in imagination, right?

Karen: Right. 

Erin: So he’s got these works for us that are going to be reality. That’s the thing. When we look at our lives and our stories and our books and we’re just like, “Oh, how can that ever be?” 

Well, because creativity and God, he’s turning these imaginative ideas into reality. He’s the one that’s working through us to do this and his ideas are always great.

If we would hang on to the truth that what he’s working in us as people is going to be reality, and it’s a reality that we can just barely grasp, but I want our listeners out there to hang on to the truth that because he’s God, he’s going to see it through and he’s going to do it.

Tina: We need to resist the temptation to believe that the things that are in front of us are greater than the God that is over us. And that’s part of connecting with the ultimate creative resource, the Holy Spirit dwelling in us. If we don’t connect with God and believe that he is able to fulfill what he created us for through us, then we’re going to be missing the ultimate source of all of our creativity.

Karen: It’s interesting, you remind me of comments that I’ve heard from people where they say, “Well, God has forgiven me, but I can’t forgive myself.”

When I hear that, I really struggle, and I’ve said to the people who say it, “Then you’re putting yourself above God. You’re saying that your forgiveness needs more than God’s forgiveness. That God’s forgiveness isn’t enough.”

You can’t not forgive yourself if God has forgiven you. That makes no sense at all because the Creator of everything that exists has said to you, “I accept you and I forgive you.”

What stature, what place do we have to say, “Well, that’s nice, but I can’t forgive myself yet”? 

We have to see ourselves as we are in Christ not as we are as clay, as the brokenness. Like the scripture in Philippians 1:6, where it says, “He who began a good work in you…”

He began a good work, the work that he started in us, the creativity that he’s putting into us. It’s good from the get go, and “he will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.”

I long for that day. I don’t know about you guys. I’m ready. 

Erin: Tina, you said something, too, about how connecting with the Holy Spirit and entering into that process with the Holy Spirit is important. How do we do that?

Tina: We need to allow the Holy Spirit to be in conversation with us. That means that we are praying, and we are listening. We are going to need to intentionally make time to be with God in a place where we’re actually listening, not just speaking. 

Now there’s a process of brainstorming in God’s presence that can happen where we’re talking, but if you don’t give yourself margin to listen, you won’t be able to hear the Holy Spirit inspiring you and bringing new ideas.

And again, of course, we know as creatives, you can’t wait for inspiration to work. You’re going to have to work every day regardless. But if you bring God to work with you by inviting him to be part of your thought processes and bouncing those ideas off of the Holy Spirit and asking him to just guide and direct your plots, guide and direct all of the content. Or your nonfiction work, whatever it is that you’re working on. 

If God is breathing his words into it through you because you’re allowing the Holy Spirit to breathe into you, you’re listening. You’re being receptive to him by praying in a listening attitude toward God, a surrendered attitude toward God. Then those words will be so much more powerful.

Erin: I like that. It reminds me of another thing that I read that said creativity involves two processes, thinking then producing. I think that thinking part is the listening part, you know? Just listening to what God says and pondering it and meditating on it. Not just, you know, going, “Okay.” That’s a surface thing.

God tells us so many things. Jeremiah 33:3 God says, “Call to me and I will answer you, and I will tell you great and mighty things that you do not know.”

Well then we better listen. Then if it really is a great and mighty thing, like he promises, we better be thinking about it, too. We better be taking time to meditate. I don’t want the word meditate to scare people. Consider it just to think on it, to chew on it in your brain. 

But I like what you said, Tina, where we have to put ourselves in that position where we have that time to be quiet and to listen and to hear. That’s got to be tough in this world today because there’s so much input coming in. 

Karen: Well and because we often let our brains settle into areas that maybe aren’t all that helpful. We let those inner voices get into our heart and our mind and our brains, and we struggle to really hear God’s voice. 

Some of that is spiritual. Some of it can be physiological. I know that I’ve been struggling the last several years with what feels like loss in capacity with the brain. I was telling Tina and Erin before the podcast, I’ve been having tests done with neuropsychologists. I just had an MRI done a couple days ago to test and see if there were any problems in the actual brain.

Not only did they find my brain, there is one in there, but after the MRI, I contacted my neurologist and he said, “Yeah, your brain is normal.” 

Which I communicated to everyone that I know, and to which they all replied, “Yeah, no. No. It’s never been normal.”

But it was encouraging to know that there aren’t indicators in my brain of things like poor brain health or degenerative diseases…

…Wow, I don’t know about you guys, but I think this has been a terrific conversation. And here’s the good news, there’s more to come. You’ll get the rest of this conversation in the next podcast, so stay tuned.

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Thanks to all our patrons on Patreon! You help make this podcast possible!

Thanks so much to our August sponsor of the month, Priscilla Sharrow! She’s working on her memoir called Bonked! Life, Love, and Laughter with Traumatic Brain Injury, which will release with Redemption Press. Learn more about Priscilla at her website priscillasharrow.com and follow her blog for the TBI/PTSD community.

Many thanks also to the folks at Podcast P.S. for their fabulous sound editing!

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