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130 – Facing Decisions That Could End Your Career with Guest Tamera Alexander

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Facing Decisions That Could End Your Career with Guest Tamera Alexander Write from the DeepPublishing is a tough career. Writers have to work so hard and learn so much to maintain a successful career. So what would you do if everything was going great and then wham! You’re asked to make a choice between truth and your career? Guest Tamera Alexander shares her experience.

About Tamera Alexander

Tamera Alexander is a USA Today bestselling novelist and one of today’s most beloved authors of inspirational historical romance. Her works have been awarded numerous industry-leading honors—among them the Christy Award, the RITA Award, and the Carol Award—and have earned the distinction of Publisher’s Weekly Starred Reviews. Tamera and her husband reside in Nashville, Tennessee, not far from the Southern mansions that serve as the backdrop for many of her critically-acclaimed novels. Learn more about Tamera at her website tameraalexander.com.

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Erin: Welcome listeners. We are so glad you have joined us today in the deep. We have a guest, Tamera Alexander! Yay! Of course, we’ll let Karen do the introductions.

Karen: As many of you know, Tamera Alexander is a bestselling, award-winning author of wonderful Southern historical novels. Many of her Southern works are based on true stories, such as the families who built and lived at two of the most popular Southern plantations in Tennessee, Carnton and Belle Meade.

Both plantations are popular tourist attractions, and Tammy has had the great joy and honor of conducting reader weekends and tours in both places. Someday, I’m going to go get me on one of them thar tours. As a true Southerner, Tammy writes what she knows, and that authenticity shines in her work, as does her faith in God.

Her greatest hope is that when a reader turns that final page, she prays, they will have taken a step closer to Christ. Tammy and her husband and their two rambunctious, Australian terriers, who really are as adorable as it gets, make their home in Nashville. So, Tammy, welcome.

Tamera: Hey, gals! Thank you so much, Karen and Erin. This is wonderful to be with y’all again. I’m just grateful. I’m grateful for all you do and grateful to be with you.

Karen: Thank you.

Erin: We’re thankful to have you again. And so, what we want to know now, today, what does that mean to you?

Tamera: It means something quite different and maybe even deeper than it was when we talked earlier this year. When we talked earlier this year, I had no idea what was coming, which is quite, you know, that is normal in the Christian walk. You don’t know what’s coming, but God does.

That truth was a real buoying factor for me. What happened was my book Colors of Truth was scheduled to release this spring. And it was delayed until July of 2020. Then on shipment date, when all the books were supposed to ship, they’d already been printed and all that, I get a call from my publisher and they have decided to delay the book yet again.

There were concerns over the Southern setting. Which it is. It is about Carnton, an antebellum mansion. The story ranges from the mid Civil War to the end of the Civil War, and then 10 years after. So definitely within the Civil War and the antebellum era.

You may remember back during the summer, not so much now, but during the summer, there was a lot of rioting and Civil War sites were being attacked and all the statutes torn down.

Karen: Right.

Tamera: So there was a lot of concern about that. The Colors of Truth, the actual title was also a concern. That wasn’t my original title, but that’s the one that we came to to settle upon.

Long story short, they delay. I try to talk them out of it. I look at this and I think, you know, history is history. We do not need to try to pussyfoot around it. A lot of history is sinful, because guess what? We are sinful. Our ancestors were sinful. Our descendants will be sinful. We are sinful creatures at our core.

Karen: Right.

Tamera: So I thought, “Don’t try to whitewash it. Don’t try to make it what it’s not.” Which is their right. They said no. And they decided to delay it again. But then I got a call probably not three weeks later. They called with a specific request for me to change portions of the history of the book.

I tell you what, God had done a work in me last year that I am not proud of. I was just at Carnton this past Sunday and shared this story. I’ve shared it with readers before, but it really ended up being a wonderful conversation at Carnton on Sunday.

So what they did was they asked me to change, and I’ll get back to what happened a year ago in just a second, but they asked me to change the history. We were on a zoom call, and it lasted for probably a couple of hours, but nothing within me really wavered. I listened, and I truly thought, “Okay, Lord, if there’s really something here that I need to address, show me. Show me, show me, show me.”

I had already camped in Psalm 139, praying about God showing me my wicked way, and saying, “If there’s anything in my book that needs to be changed, let me know. Reveal that to me.”

So long story short, I decided I could not. I just said, “I cannot change the history.”

I worked with the curators. I worked with historians to get the history right, to tell the right history. It wouldn’t be historically accurate to take away the struggle of some of the freedmen and women from that era and make them agents of their story six months after the civil war, for a 74 year old woman, who’d been a slave all of her life. And asking me to do things to her and for her and change her character—and keep in mind, there were already two books in the series that were published—I just couldn’t do it.

So I said, “I’m sorry. I just cannot do this.”

And that’s when they said, “Well, we cannot take this book. We will not take this book.” So, there was an odd pause. An awkward pause.

Erin: ‘Cause what does that really mean?

Tamera: Right. What does that mean? They said, “We just don’t think this book will sell. Not in this current culture.”

I said, “Okay.” So bottom line is they canceled it. So what does that mean? That means the book is canceled. It’s like they never took it. It’s just canceled. And I had book three already that I had signed with them, but they let me know that book three was also canceled.

It definitely left me a little bit spinning. I mean, literally, you just feel the rug kind of pulled out.

Karen: Right.

Tamera: I’m close to a lot of writers, but there’s a specific group of women, some of y’all may know, I call it the Coeur d’Alene group. Karen, you’re part of that. We meet every summer and share, but throughout the year we also have an email loop. They are really my prayer warriors.

I did not share with writer groups widely about this at all, but I shared with that group for them to come alongside me and to give me wisdom. So as I was going through this, cause what I told you in like three or four minutes, was really months. It was several, several weeks of going through this and working through it.

They really helped me to stay grounded, but I tell you, it did leave me reeling. If you go back, I made a video for my readers. I made one as soon as I found out about the delay, and it was really odd because, you know, you’ll make notes before you make a video. I did little bullet points: Okay, I want to cover this, cover this, cover this. I had not intended in that video to say anything about, you know, “Some of you are writing, asking me, are you frantically having to change the novel and rewrite it?”

Of course I said, “No, no.” Which, I’d planned to say that. What I didn’t plan on saying, but what came up, was my publisher was not even asking me to make that change. At the time, they hadn’t.

Honestly, it blew me away, just blew me away that this would even happen. But it did. So the next video I made, I think I was a little bit shell shocked. I was still processing it quite honestly, gals. I was still processing it myself. And I don’t name my publisher by name. It’s not hard to find out. They published the first two books in the series.

Karen: Right.

Tamera: But this is not about them. It’s truly not any more. For a while there, of course, it was just sorting out all of the details with them.

Karen: I’ve got to let you guys know that several of us in the group of writers offered to go beat people up for Tammy, and she wouldn’t let us do it.

Tamera: Not even. No. But anyway, it was a real faith building experience for me. I am way better now, you know, when we’re speaking now, than I was then. It’s not that I didn’t think God was in the midst of it. I just didn’t know what he was doing. I had no idea what he was doing.

So I had a very quick indie publishing crash course because I was determined to meet the October date. I found out about this, it was right at the first of September. So I had roughly a month to learn how to indie publish and to do all of that.

Erin: This is the awkward thing. You are in the middle of this contract with a publisher. You’re trying to meet, you know, you’re trying to keep an open mind to do what they see is the best thing for the book. At the same time, you’re trying to do what you see as the best thing for the book. And then you’ve got your readers that you’re trying to deal with because you want to meet their expectations.

I’m just sitting here trying to picture you on a video call to tell your readers that they don’t want the book that they want. That’s a very tricky place for an author to be in. You don’t want to bad mouth anybody, but how did you sort that out and be true to what you thought was right, and honor everyone you could?

Tamera: This is where I think I’ll take us back to last year. This is what happened last year, latter March of 2019. I had already been writing the book and my dad, he had had dementia for about a decade, and he was entering his last months. We knew they were his last months, but you know, with dementia, you never know. We had had false alarms: This is it…well, no, it’s really not.

In March, Kelsey and I were going to go on a trip. I knew I was going to have a two week chunk where I would not be writing. My agent called and she said, “Your publisher is wanting to know where you are on the book.”

It would have been due in December, and Dad ended up passing in August. That’s another whole part of this book was that I was writing this book in the midst of that last year with him, which was just full of so many blessings. So many of our moments ended up making it into the book, which was just, again, it’s just such a God thing. So they called and they asked, “Where are you in the book?”

I was very much behind. I was not where my personal writing schedule needed to be, and I said, “I’m at 15,000 words.”

My agent said, “You’re at 50,000 words? You’ve only got 50,000 words?”

I knew in that moment I should say, “No, you misheard me. It’s even worse.” But what I did, gals, is I said yes. I said, “Yes, that’s what I’ve got.”

Because in my mind, I thought, “I’m going to count my notes, and all the notes, thats adds up to it, too.”

No, no. It’s a lie. I only had 15,000 words. To make matters worse, literally, I’m packing to go on this trip, I’ll be headed to the airport in about six hours.

She said, “Go ahead and send it to me. We’ll see what you’ve got, and we’ll share it with the publisher.”

The publisher wanted to see what I had. Well, at that point I knew. I thought, oh, and I just felt horrible. I already felt horrible.

I’d already confessed to my family. I was in tears, and I’ll be honest. I hated to leave Dad. I’m thinking, “What if he dies while I’m gone on this trip? I don’t need to be going on this trip.”

The trip, as God would have it, was to the Holy Land. I lie to my agent about how much I have done on this book. And little do I know, and this doesn’t excuse me at all so don’t hear me saying that, but another author had done that the previous year.

Karen: Oh dear.

Tamera: They were attuned to this and they said, “We have found that you authors sometimes give the truth scope.”

I said, “I think that’s a nice definition for the term lie.” And it is. I heard someone this morning in BSF, we were talking about Abram and Sarai at the time before God changed their names. Do you remember when Abram lied about Sarai? He said, “Oh, she’s my sister. She’s my sister.”

Well, she was his half sister. So he based the lie in truth. But someone said, “Well, it was a half-truth.”

And I said, “The thing is with the Lord God, you go back.” And that’s what I did as I finished writing Colors of Truth. Colors of truth. I looked at every Scripture in the Word of God, both Old and New Testament that dealt with truth, that dealt with honesty and authenticity. There is no half anything.

Karen: That’s right.

Tamera: There’s no half lie. There’s no half truth. There is falsehood. There is lying, and there is truth, and there is authenticity and realness.

So, I called my publisher. I called my agent. I asked their forgiveness, but I’m on my way to the airport. They’re like, “You know, we get it, we get it. You were stressed. Just go on the trip and we’ll sort it all out. And we know that you’re good for it as far as the book and everything.”

But I needed with my personal schedule to be much farther ahead than I was. So, I go on the trip and don’t you know that every turn, it felt like in that trip, God met me with justice and righteousness and truth and falsehood. I mean, there were so many times during that trip that I was just on my knees. At En Gedi, on the field where David slew Goliath, near the tomb of Jesus.

I thought, “Oh my word, Lord, you are just tilling my heart.” But it needed to be tilled because in that moment, when I decided—and it’s all a decision. I’ve heard myself, say it, you know, I didn’t intend to lie, or I didn’t really mean to do it.

Yeah, I did. And, yes, you did.

I know Paul says, “The things that I know I should do, I don’t do. And the things that I don’t want to do are the things I do.” I so get that. I lived it.

So, speed ahead. Now God is dealing with me. In this book Colors of Truth, it’s all about lies we tell ourselves, lies we tell to each other, and lies we tell to God. Good luck with that last one, by the way.

Erin: Right.

Tamera: But I tell you, my mind was kind of blown. This was fall now. I had already said goodbye to Dad. We walked him home. God was so good in that he let me be by Dad’s bedside with my brother and my step-mom, Esta. We were with him when Dad breathed his last, and I was able to be with Mom when she breathed her last. That was just such a blessing. I’ll tell you what, you see blessings.

Sometimes part of this whole experience at times—I know we are washed and we are clothed with Christ when we come to Christ and in Romans it says we are baptized into his death and raised to newness of life, and we are new creatures. And when God looks at us, he no longer sees us in our sin, but he sees Jesus Christ. But there are moments, ladies, when God lifts the veil, I think, and I see myself and who I would be without him. And that was one of those moments.

All I thought about in that moment—and this is how Satan can come in and twist our thoughts—was, “I don’t want to upset them with where I am. Because I know I can get it done. I just need to get through. I need to go to Israel and get back and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.”

So I thought, “I don’t want to make them feel badly, and I don’t want to upset everything. So I’ll just do this.”

That’s why he is called the father of lies. When we lie in that split moment, we are following his lead.

Erin: Right.

Tamera: So now, a lot of people ask how I had the courage to say, “I’m not going to change anything in this book. I will not rewrite history.” Oh, literally, for the love of God. He has taken me this last year, and he has drilled and engraved truth on my heart. To tell the truth. To tell the truth. Do not stray from the truth.

He says, “I am the way and the truth and the life.” Not a truth, not a way, not a life. The truth.

So when that came to me, it was a balancing in that moment because I thought, “Okay, I just have a great admiration, esteem, for historians and for the history, for the real history. And yet, I don’t know everything. So you think, “Okay, let’s look through this. Let’s sift it like the wheat from the chaff.”

But once we got done I thought it would take out the heart of the truth of the story and the truth of this woman, this character who is based on the real cook, the real housekeeper who worked for the McGavocks, who was a slave most of her life, who in 1866 was now a freed woman.

Yes, she had been emancipated. But this is roughly in January of 1866. We’re talking six to seven months after the Civil War. Yes, the emancipation proclamation was signed in 1863 and all that. But this woman was still very much enslaved. Very much enslaved. And to say that she could strike out and just do this and go looking for this thing—this part of the plot of the book that I don’t want to give away—was not realistic.

They were saying it would make it a more exciting book. And I thought, “Perhaps in some ways, but it wouldn’t be truthful. It would not be truthful. And specifically to the history at Carnton.”

So all of that is a long story to show why, when it came to, “Would you change the history in this story and change these things?” it was not a hard decision because God had already been dealing with me on a personal level on speaking truth and telling the truth.

I’ll tell you, there’ve been countless times since, socially, where you’re…someone said recently, “Well, if you say you have another appointment and you don’t really have another appointment, you just don’t need to go, that’s not really a lie.”

Yeah. That’s actually, what you just said right there, is the definition of lying. What you don’t have, you’re saying you do have. That is a lie.

Yes, we want to spare other people’s feelings and all that, but there is a way to be a more truthful person. Just say, “Listen, I would love to come. I have had a killer of a week. I love you dearly. Let’s get coffee in the next the month or so, but I just cannot. I don’t have the bandwidth for that right now.

What I found was everyone has understood, as far as those social things that you try to skirt by, that often we skate very close to “non-truth.” As we call it, we like to dress up what we do.

I just find it is freeing. It is so freeing to be truthful.

Move on now to the publishing and all that, as far as the readers. I loved what you said, Erin, about how you’re walking kind of a balance with being true to history, being true to your readers, and wanting to please your publisher. And I did want to please them.

I just found out very quickly when you’re at the throne of Christ and you truly feel like, okay, here are your choices: you be true to what God has called you to do, or you do this.

I think for all of us, the or? You lost me at or.

Karen: Yeah.

Tamera: You lost me at or. The or is not a choice any anymore. So anyway, indie publishing was actually kind of fun. Yes, it was insane at moments. I tried to learn Photoshop, which has a steep  learning curve, to fix the covers and stuff because the covers needed some zhuzhing, as we say. I couldn’t do that, so I hired that out. I’m so grateful to Angie Hunt and to Ken Raney who came to my rescue and helped me with the covers.

Then everything else, you know, it really came together. It was a fun experience. And the book, thank you to readers, was number one in American historical, I believe, and American historical romance, religious historical romance, and Christian historical romance.

That’s a God thing, and those are readers who came alongside and who are helping to promote the book even now with word of mouth. I’ve got to tell ya, I’ve never been so grateful for word of mouth, because no longer is there a publicist behind you. But as I’ve learned, and as I shared with y’all just a little bit ago before we came on, God is the best publicist. He really is.

Erin: Right. And let’s be clear here for a minute. We want to be clear. Publishers have the right to publish what they see fit to publish.

Tamera: Absolutely, they do.

Erin: They have the right, let’s just put it that way. And, Tammy, you have the right to follow your heart and what you feel is true. Also let’s be clear, they weren’t asking you to be like, oh, you know, let’s change this fictional bit from red to orange. We’re not talking about that. We’re talking about, they wanted you to say something, create something in history that wasn’t true for history.

Tamera: Those circumstances, yeah.

Karen: Hang on a minute. I do want to say something as someone who has worked in a number of publishing houses.

Erin: Yeah, do.

Karen: They do not have the right to ask you to rewrite history.

Erin: Right.

Karen: I don’t care what the reason is. I don’t care if they say that it’s going to sell better. They do not have the right to ask you, especially as a believer, as a Christian author, to lie.

Erin: Right.

Karen: That is something that I believe they will be held accountable for. That was a huge misstep on their part.

Tamera: Karen, you know, since you’re part of the Coeur d’Alene group, with which I said I shared extensively. But I have not shared extensively publicly about the detailed letters, and I won’t, because my goal is not to paint them in a horrible light. They had the right to not publish the book.

Erin: That’s what I’m saying.

Tamera: They have the right to change their mind and say, “You know, we’ve changed our minds.” That’s why you have contracts. And that’s why you have attorneys to work out all those contracts.

Erin: Exactly.

Tamera: One more thing. I can almost guarantee you, they did not believe what they were asking me to do would have been a lie. They thought it would have been giving it depth or a different spin. But to me, I could not do that because that would not be truthful to the history that I know happened at Carnton in 1866. That would not have happened there. It would not, especially with a 74 year old woman. I just don’t want to say like they’re over here just making up lies. Not at all.

When I see my publisher, well, we won’t see each other at the Christy Awards this year. But when we see each other, I will hug. I will not shoot daggers across the room because, guys, we are brothers and sisters in Christ, and that bond goes beyond this one.

Was it uncomfortable? Yeah. Was it pleasant? No. But God had it from start to finish. I’m just very, very grateful for the world that we live in now that does enable an author to indie publish. I really am grateful for that.

Someone asked me today, “Are you going to do this indie pub now and never published with another publisher?”

I’m not saying that either. But for these two books, I just need to go ahead and do those definitely with an indie pub, which is Fountain Creek Press, which is my own press.

Other people have asked, “So are you taking books to publish now?” No, I can barely write mine.

If you need a smaller imprint, write me through my website, and I can point you to some really good ones. But that is not what this press is for.

Erin: I feel like your whole story is showing that not only do we do missteps personally, but companies misstep. For writers out there who may be involved with a company, have a publishing company, it might all go great. Or one or both of you might make a misstep. That’s just people, and learning how to deal with it in grace, I love your attitude, Tammy. I love the way that you were able to forgive and move ahead and still understand that these people are brothers and sisters in Christ.

Karen: You do have to be sure as a writer, though, that you don’t publish at all costs.

Erin: Right.

Karen: I mean, it was hard for you as someone who was established, who was a lead author. That was very difficult.

But for someone who’s just starting out, if the publisher comes to them and says, “Sure, we want to do your book. But you have to make these changes.” And you know as the writer that that’s the wrong thing to do from an integrity standpoint, maybe from a history standpoint, like was the case with you, we have to remember that God is the one in control of our publishing career. Not the publisher, not even us.

Whatever we do has to be steeped in prayer and steeped in his integrity and truth. If you try to fudge that so that you can have a publisher and be a published writer, that’s not a career that God is going to be able to bless.

Tamera: No, I totally agree. Something about that, Karen, that has resonated with me for years is to run the race that God has set before me, like it says in Hebrews 12:1-2. I’ve often pictured this, especially because we know a lot of writers, and we are writers, and we start looking over here, especially these younger writers coming up and they’re just so dang cute.

They’re just so perky, you know? Sometimes I find myself looking down at lane four, and oh, she’s so cute. She’s wearing the cutest little yoga pants and her little running pants, and she’s just so cute. She’s just hurdling over those hurdles and just having a great time. And I’m thinking, “Yeah, I fell on that first hurdle about ten years ago. She’s just zooming.”

But you know what? We need to be careful. The rest of that verse is, “Keep your eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of your faith.” We need to cheer for each other. Yes, absolutely. But keep your eyes on Christ. Don’t start comparing my track and the race that God has me on with the cute little blonde in lane four or even the writer who is ten years my senior who’s writing over there in the lane next to me, or two over.

Karen: Right.

Tamera: Don’t compare. Run the race that God has set before me.

Erin, something that you said, Joe and I learned this long ago, my husband and I, early in our marriage. We were working for a Christian university. We learned very early on that businesses can never be Christian.

Erin: Right.

Tamera: There are no such things as Christian businesses. People are Christians. The Holy Spirit inhabits people, not businesses. I think it’s very important knowing going in and just having a clear understanding of what this partnership is, certainly with a publisher, but with any business, especially with publishing. Publishing is a business, and you need to look at it as a business.

Yes. I hope we’re family, and we’re part of the same publishing family. But the fact of the matter is, if my numbers dip, and if I am not a profitable margin for them, they’re going to kindly and lovingly lead me to the door.

Karen: That’s right.

Tamera: I mean, seriously, because it is a business. Yes, it’s a ministry. Absolutely, it is. But it’s also a business.

Karen: The time has gone by so fast. I know that you have so many other things to share, but let’s do it this way. What’s the last thought that you want to leave with our listeners?

Tamera: Hmm. A last thought to leave. Erin, what you said, “What an attitude of forgiveness,” that was God that has developed that. That is nothing from Tamera Alexander. That is God. I tell you, he deepened my love for his Word over this past year. He gave me a thirst for his Word.

We recently moved and are in a different house. It’s got a lovely view. I get up in the morning at five o’clock, and for the first hour and a half, I just steep myself in his Word. He was prepping me. He knew all along, and that’s the difference.

Karen: Amen. So we never have to worry about what’s going to come in the future. We never have to worry about what we’re going to do as long as we keep our eyes on Christ.

Erin: Amen.

Tamera: And amen.

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How to Avoid Writer’s Burnout, Part 1

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But first, thank you to all our patrons on Patreon! You help make this podcast possible!

We don’t live in an easy world. It’s complicated, difficult, and frequently confusing. And most of us writers have busy lives, not just trying to cope with things like a global pandemic and natural disasters, but also trying to keep up with our daily responsibilities: our family, a home—you’ve got to clean and cook and fix stuff that breaks, and then there’s our writing, and then marketing on top of that, and trying to learn new things in our craft, and probably juggling some type of a day job to boot. 

Through all that, we’re under the gun to be endlessly and effortlessly creative. Cheerful. Competent. It’s no wonder we feel drained, exhausted, and teetering on the edge of burnout, if we’re not already there. 

Today we want to talk about an antidote to burnout. We want to give you some tips to avoid burnout and help you stay creatively and spiritually fresh. There are lots of tips, so we’re going to be breaking this up into a series, because you probably don’t have time to listen to a three-hour podcast right now, especially if you have 800 things to do today.

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Stop spending every day in one giant hurry to do everything. We know, we know. You wanted some genius new strategy to somehow be able to “do it all.” But the very best thing we can tell you is to STOP trying to do it all. Allen Arnold once gave Erin a great piece of advice: Do fewer things and do them well. If you’re able to take this to heart, it will change your life. You have to make a conscious decision about what’s most important to you and then, you have to give some things up. But that’s SO hard.

1. Loss Aversion Makes it Hard to “Give Things Up”

We’re what Daniel Kahneman, in his book Thinking Fast and Slow, describes as loss averse. To be loss averse means that in our minds, losses loom larger than gains, so we try to avoid them. And when we do suffer a loss, it feels terrible. Now, being way too busy and burned out also feels terrible, but it’s something we know. We’d rather clutch everything we have in our tight little hands and feel lousy than suffer through something we perceive as a loss. In our minds, we actually weigh losses about twice as much as gains. Which is fascinating. So how do we overcome this loss aversion? 

    • First, it’s helpful to know that we have it, and to understand it. We have to be able to tell ourselves, “Yes, brain, thank you very much for trying to protect me from loss. I know you’re loss averse and that’s why this feels so hard. But, my dear brain, and my dear emotions, in reality, the gain of feeling better because I’m not rushing all the time is WAY better than you’re giving it credit for, and the loss isn’t going to be nearly as bad as you think. 
    • It’s also helpful to think in terms of gains. Turn the question around in your mind: What time can you gain in your day by stopping other activities? What emotional well being will you gain by not having to rush around?
    • Ask yourself what will you gain in terms of outcomes if you have more time, energy, and focus for the fewer things you do? By doing fewer things you CAN do them better, and that’s a very important gain. 

2. We Have Trouble Deciding Which Few Things We Should Focus On

The second reason why it’s hard to do fewer things and do them well is that we don’t know which things we should choose as “the fewer things” that we should do. That can only come through prayerful decision making. Let us suggest that one of the fewer things you might choose to do is to spend more time with God.

The better you know God, and the better you understand who you are in him, the more your identity and self-worth comes not from the things you accomplish but from the worth he gives to you. And from simply enjoying him everyday. God created us to enjoy him and glorify him. That’s really the sum of it. We did a 2 part series on Hearing God in episodes 110-111. I encourage you to go back and listen to those if you struggle with this.

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3. We Have Trouble Saying No

The third reason why it’s hard to do fewer things is that we have trouble saying no. Even if we have managed to pare down our list of responsibilities and activities, we’re still going to face constant challenges to that short list. There are appeals for our time and attention coming to us left and right. Multiple times a day. The church nursery puts out a call for volunteers. Or some local cause you believe in needs help. Or you get an invitation to speak somewhere, which means prep time and maybe travel time. These can add up to you not doing fewer things anymore.

    • Sometimes we have trouble saying no because we feel guilty if we say no. Guilt is never from God. Conviction is from God, but not guilt. Guilt is a tool of the enemy, and it’s often tied to our insecurities. Again, this gives you another good reason to make sure one of those fewer things you chose to do is growing your relationship with God. 
    • Sometimes it’s simply, deep down, that we want people to like us and we’re afraid they won’t like us if we say no. When we do that, it amounts to valuing others’ opinions over our own, and more important, over God’s opinions and acceptance of us. We don’t think of it this way, but it is, in essence, idolatry. So ask yourself, am I saying no because I don’t want to deal with this person’s reaction to my no?
    • Or sometimes we don’t want to say no because we have a fear of missing out on something fun or something we’d enjoy. And that’s worth considering, but we have to consider that decision in the light of the other decisions we’ve already made. When you try to make a decision in isolation, for example, do you want to join a friend on a weekend road trip? That kind of sounds like a no brainer: Yes! But if you line up all the other things you’ve prayed about, the things you know are the few things you’ve chosen to do well, and you realize that every time you go on a road trip, you don’t sleep, and it takes several days to recover, then you can ask yourself, can you still do the things that are important to you well? How important is this road trip when compared to those other few things you’ve chosen? What is that recovery from this road trip going to cost you in terms of time and ability? Sometimes it’ll be worth the cost, and sometimes it won’t. But the point is, you can’t make an informed decision in isolation.
    • Sometimes it’s hard to say no because it feels so final. Like that no means never. Sometimes it should mean never, but sometimes it should only mean not right now, or not yet. Consider the season of life you’re in right now as you pray through which of the fewer things you want to do. Some things will make sense to do now, and some will make sense to put in your “When the kids are off in college” category. Or when they’re out of diapers. Or, after the holidays, or whatever. Don’t be afraid to have a “Someday Maybe” category in your mind. Make that into list of things you’ve written down and that you evaluate yearly, or quarterly, or whatever. These few things that you choose to do now aren’t written in stone. Not ever.
    • The bottom line is that we are limited creatures with limited time to walk this earth. We cannot say yes to everything. In fact, we’re going to have to say no a lot more often than we can say yes. Erin heard a great quote: One yes must be defended by a thousand nos. One of the best tips we can give you for avoiding burnout is to get very good at saying no. Saying no takes courage, practice, and prayer. 
Stop Rushing on Your Writing Journey

We talked about the need to stop rushing and to do fewer things in order to help avoid burnout. But, another aspect of the idea of not rushing, is to stop rushing in your writing career. We all want to finish that book, or get that series finished, or get that agent, or get that contract, or learn that new technique, or get those sales, or that bestseller title, or whatever, and we want to do it now. Or, if not right now, then as soon as possible.

This mentality is tempting for every writer. But the problem is, being in a hurry to get somewhere else makes us discontent with where we are right now. That makes it impossible to enjoy the journey. 

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We did a whole podcast about the dangers of discontent, episode 94, so we encourage you to check that out. 

Erin heard a quote somewhere that went something like: “Yesterday is history, tomorrow is mystery.” All you really know you have is right now, and if you can’t enjoy it, how can you ever be happy? 

If we’re only happy when we hit some specific milestone, the trouble is, that happiness is short lived, because there’s always another milestone, and that thing we want always comes with its own challenges and difficulties. 

So how do we do this? How do we stop rushing in our writing career?

1. Take Pleasure In Where We Are Now

Take pleasure in the simple fact that we are on the path God has for us, and our job is to glorify him and delight in him on the path right now, not somewhere down the road.

What can you thank God for right now? What can you glorify him for right now? What lessons does he have for you right now, that you can only learn by being fully present right now? Maybe you’re in a great place, or maybe you’re in a lousy place, but it’s the place God has you. There’s a reason why patience and self control are fruits of the Spirit. Focus on how you can cultivate a Christ-mindedness and a Christ-likeness here in this particular place on your journey.

2. Take Your Time Learning and Incorporating New Ideas

As you think about improving your writing craft, and marketing, and everything else that goes along with it, remember that you don’t have to rush to learn everything right now. Take your time. Chew on it. Absorb it. Implement new ideas over time rather than feeling pressured to do everything in a giant bulk dump. 

3. Delight In Being Faithful In Each Task

Living our lives at top speed is stressful, and we don’t see any of the scenery. Instead of racking up milestones, value faithfulness, value diligence. Value sowing well so you can reap in the proper time. This doesn’t mean you can’t ever look forward to a harvest, but it means that you don’t put so much focus on rewards down the road that you fail to reward your own hard work right now. 

Work is God-given. Even when all was perfect in the Garden of Eden, God gave Adam and Eve the job of caretaking, of working. Work is good. Yes, we live in a fallen world, filled with futility, but our work with God, our creating with him, our imitating him, our delighting in him each day as we’re faithful to little tasks is still meant to be fulfilling now, while we’re here on earth.

You don’t need to rush. You don’t need to stress to write 5,000 words a day when 500 words a day, or 50, will still get the book written. Pray about how much time you should be writing, pray about how much time you should be doing other writing related tasks, and be satisfied with the speed limit God gives you. It’s fine. We promise. Because it’s your speed. Not your neighbor’s speed, not your critique partner’s, not that latest new best-selling author’s speed, and not that person’s speed who took 30 years to write her book. Go your own, perfect, God-given speed.

The Bottom Line

Love yourself enough to do for yourself what you would do for your spouse, or your child, or a good friend. Love your neighbor as yourself. Give yourself a break. God didn’t give you this task to leave you burned out and exhausted. He gave you this task not because he needs you to do it, but to bless you. To draw you into his creativity. To draw you to his side so that you can savor time with him as he creates through you. 

Know that you’re in the center of God’s will. And when you’re in that place, you’re not ahead. You’re not behind. You’re exactly where you need to be, with no reason to rush anywhere.

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128 – God’s Purposes in Our Writing with Guest Nick Harrison

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Nick Harrison Write from the Deep podcast with Karen Ball and Erin Taylor YoungGuest Nick Harrison has done it all: librarian, bookstore owner, editor, writer, and agent. And through it all, he’s learned so much about what it takes to succeed, not just in publishing, but in being obedient to the God who asked him to write. Listen in as he shares keys to understanding God’s purposes in your writing.

About Nick Harrison

Nick Harrison is a literary agent with WordServe Literary and the author of more than a dozen  books. Nick graduated from San Jose State University with a degree in English and a minor in journalism. For fifteen years Nick served as a senior editor at Harvest House Publishers, acquiring both fiction and non-fiction. You can find out more about Nick at his website is nickharrisonbooks.com.

Thanks to our sponsors on Patreon, we’re able to offer an edited transcript of the podcast!

Erin: Welcome everybody. Welcome to the deep. I’m glad you’re here with us today. We have a guest and we’ll let Karen introduce him. 

Karen: Nick Harris! I’ve known him for lo these many years. He’s worked in the book industry for more than 30 years. He’s an old man, like we’re old ladies. 

Erin: Wait a minute, wait a minute. Are you calling me old? 

Karen: He’s owned or managed both Christian and children’s bookstores. He’s written articles for several prominent publications, and he’s authored 10 books, including Magnificent Prayer, which I love, and Power in the Promises: Praying God’s Word to Change Your Life. For 15 years, he served as senior editor at Harvest House Publishers, where he worked with several well-known fiction and nonfiction authors. Now he’s a literary agent with Wordserve Literary.

He’s a popular speaker and teacher at writer’s conferences where I love to meet him when we’re together at the conferences. He loves to discover promising new writers. He and his wife, Beverly, and avid quilter live in Oregon. Yay, Oregon! And they’re the parents of three adult daughters and grandparents of two boys and two girls.

Nick, welcome. Welcome to the deep. 

Nick: Oh, thanks. It’s great to be here. 

Erin: Yes, and let me just say, if you guys have never met Nick personally, he’s just one of my favorite people. He’s just the sweetest man ever. If you’re ever at a conference and you just need a father figure who’s going to be sweet and kind, find Nick. 

Karen: Yes.

Erin: All right. So, Nick, our first question for you: What does the deep mean to you? 

Nick: Well, I love that word. Especially because the way I interpret it is deep writers from the past, like even a hundred years ago, have had such an effect on my own spiritual life. One of my goals as a writer is to take some of the deep truths, just to go deeper than what most people are doing, and try to translate Andrew Murray, Hannah Whitall Smith, etc., Take what they said for their generation and make it fresh and new for our present generation.

Because if you just tell somebody, “I’m writing a book that’s really deep,” it scares them off. That’s not something you want to do. But if you present the deep truths in a way that people can understand how that will change their life, then you’re on to something. 

So that’s my goal when I think about writing from the deep. Writing from the deep that I’ve received from some of the people I mentioned and many others. You should see my library of some of the deep writers of the past, many of whom I honestly wonder if they could be published today. So that what it means to me. 

Erin: Wow. I love it. Karen and I were just talking about Charles Spurgeon because in our reading from Streams in the Desert he was in there, and we were talking about that. Deep thinkers and deep writers.

Nick: Yeah, he’s great. One reason I don’t use him when I say he might not be able to be published today is that he had the P-word: he had the platform. 

Erin: Yeah. 

Nick: Even back then platform was an issue. So much of what he accomplished was because of his tremendous popularity in his church and in England. So he had the platform.

Nowadays, some of the writers that don’t have the platform, I wonder, you know, how they’ll make it. When I do go to conferences, one of my most popular workshops is what to do when you don’t have a platform and that’s getting increasingly hard to teach, but there are still ways.

God makes a way when he’s in it. When he’s compelling writers to write what he’s put on their heart, there’ll be a way. 

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Karen: I have a good friend I saw on Facebook who was dealing with discouragement. “Sometimes this publishing gig is hard,” she’d said. I thought, the thing we always need to keep our focus on is the fact that if God has given us this task to write, he’ll prepare the way and he’ll accomplish what he wants to accomplish, whether that means getting published or not. 

He’ll accomplish his purposes in what we do in obedience to what he’s given us to do. It is hard, and it’s crushing, and it can take you out with your ego, but if you keep your focus on the master, then it means that what you need to be careful about and focused on is being obedient, and that’s pretty much the extent of your responsibility there. 

Nick: Yes. And you know, when you mentioned the word focus, it reminded me that some writers are all over the map with what they want to write. To be focused as a writer is a big help. A lot of people cringe at the idea of having a mission statement for their writing, but, you know, a while back, I just thought, “Well now, who do I write to? Who’s my audience?”

At first I thought, “Well, okay, I know it’s hurting Christians. I write for hurting Christians.” Then God reminded me: Wait a minute. He edited me. He said, “No, you write for hurting people.” So that’s my focus. I think being a writer with focus helps you stay on the track. At least you know where you’re going. 

Karen: Right. 

Erin: Let’s dig a little deeper into that, Nick. You personally, because here you are, you’re an editor, you’ve worked at bookstores and that kind of thing, but you’re also a writer. What has driven you personally? What has called you personally to write.

Nick:  Well, like so many writers, I can go back to my childhood. I remember at age eight, I wrote my first short story. Very unpublishable. 

Then in fifth grade, a bunch of friends and I got together, and we all decided that we were going to write a book. So we each wrote a chapter. Of course now they’d have to flow together…it was awful. 

In high school, I continued to prefer English classes to some of the other classes I took. Especially math and science classes. 

Karen: Amen. 

Nick: In college, one of my first jobs was in the county library. I worked for the library as I worked my way through college. I stayed with that for quite a while after I graduated and into married life. Then I started working for Zondervan Family Bookstores. That was one more than forty years ago. So it’s just been a chain of events. 

I feel like in retrospect, when I look at what God has done, it’s sort of amazing to me how open doors happened when I would not have expected them. Many times when I prayed for a specific thing to happen, it didn’t happen. I would be discouraged. “Where are you, God? Why aren’t you answering a prayer?”

Then six months later, unexpectedly, an opportunity would arise that just blew me away. It’s sort of been that way for most of my life. Even my wonderful years at Harvest House came about not because I applied for a job there, but because there was an opening and Terry Glaspey, good old Terry, asked me if I’d be interested in applying. It was just out of the blue.

Karen:  Right.

Nick: God opens doors. We just have to believe that if we’re going to pursue writing. We have to believe that God sees the future. He uses the past. And don’t be discouraged if the present doesn’t look as glowing as you wish it did. 

Karen: I was just telling Erin that I was working on something and a quote that Francine Rivers said, that I’m sure she got from another source because that quote itself has been around for a long time, the quote is: don’t doubt in the darkness, what God has done in the light.

We’re like my dogs. My husband was just talking to my dogs. He had just fed them. They had had their breakfast, and they’re right over trying to convince him that he didn’t feed them, that they are starving to death.  

Our other little dog brought the ball to him to play with them while I’d been here in the office. He said, “I played with you for a half hour. Are you kidding me?”

I looked at him and said, “Yeah, but what have you done for me now?”

Too many of us are like that with God. “Okay. Yes. You’ve opened all these doors, but what are you going to do for me now, God?” 

Erin: I love though the idea of the patience for the six months. I think it’s really easy to give up if you don’t see what you want to see in the next day or the next week. I think about, even in the Bible, there was a point in time where Jeremiah the prophet was praying to God and saying, “Here’s all these exiles, after the governor gets executed, and they want to go to Egypt. But they asked me to ask you, should we be going to Egypt? Should we be fleeing basically from the Babylonians coming for repercussion?”

It takes 10 days for that answer. And you have to be like, well, God knew the answer right away, but why didn’t he tell him? 

Well, because he’s God. And because that answer was supposed to come in 10 days, for whatever reason.

I think it’s easy to question God’s timing and God’s purposes in that. And really, he just wants us to be faithful and to wait expectantly. 

Nick: Exactly.

Karen: You know, Erin, you went through that yourself in looking for your home there in Kansas City. 

Erin: Yes. Looking and looking and waiting and waiting and feeling like, “Why is this taking so long?” Feeling like, “Why doesn’t this seem like the right house? What is going on?” And wondering if there was a right house. Wondering if we’re being too picky. And yet there was something in my spirit that just…we just couldn’t bid on certain houses and on other ones that we were close on, there was already three other bids. So it’s like, “Well, that went away.”

And now, this particular house that we ended up with has had its challenges, but oh my goodness. It’s right here in nature. I tell Alan, my husband, I keep telling him, “I can’t believe I get to live here.”  So it was months. 

And by the way, we were supposed to move months earlier. We were supposed to…we had a different house and it all fell through when our home sale in Oklahoma fell through.

So you wonder, you know, that was quite the hardship. And you think God isn’t leading you. But he is. Even through difficult, difficult circumstances. 

I’m much happier in this house than I would have been in the house that we thought we needed to buy because we thought our house was sold. But unbeknownst to us, God knew that it was going to fall through. We didn’t. So there you go. Wait and wait, and be patient. 

Nick: Yep. That’s true. My next book is coming out in 2022. It’s a book that I’ve been praying about and knew was from the Lord two years ago. But it’s taken at least a year and a half to find an interested publisher and be offered a contract for it. So all that time, of course, like any writer, I was thinking, “God, did I hear you right?” So yeah. Now it’s finally coming to pass. So just be patient. 

Erin: Those are the times when we question our marching orders. We get these marching orders, and then if we don’t hear this constant reinforcement, we question it. When really God’s like, “I told you.” 

Karen: Don and I, for a long time, our mantra was: God’s in control. I don’t get it. I may not like the way that things are going, but God’s in control. 

That came out of so many things pulling the rug out right from under us. So many things we thought we could rely on. It’s like, all these things that we knew were leading us where God wanted us, but then they wouldn’t work out the way that we wanted them to.

I’ve come to the place now, when things don’t work out, Erin would call me and say, “You’re not going to believe this. The house sale fell through and we can’t get this house.”

I just kept saying, “God knows. God has the right place for you, and you just need to lean into him in the midst of it.”

Nick: Yep. Amen.

Erin: Nick, what do you think, I mean, as a former editor for the publishing company for so long and as an agent now, we’ve already kind of talked about some advice, but what other specific advice might you have for writers? I would want to know both spiritually and professionally, so you can start with one or the other. This is obviously a difficult publishing climate. So, what would you want to say to writers right now? 

Nick: To be successful as a writer, it seems like there are three things you have to do. You have to have good ideas for books that will meet the needs of people. You have to be able to promote that book. And you have to have writing ability. Oftentimes writers may have one or two of these things going for them, but they lack the third, whatever it is.

For me, and looking at manuscripts, the hardest one of the three, I think, is actually being a really good writer. That takes practice. For me, it took classes, even though in college, I majored in English. I minored in journalism. I learned how to write economically through my journalism classes.

In my twenties and thirties, I would take just single classes from adult ed or at the community college. Just learning over and over again. Every month, reading The Writer or Writer’s Digest, just immersing myself in trying to become a better writer.

I think of the three that I mentioned, if a person can concentrate on their writing, always…you know, I’m in my seventies. I know that I will be trying to perfect my writing until my dying day. It’s something that you never have arrived at. You just keep going at it.

If marketing is your weak point, and that is my weak point, you just do what you know to do. There’s always a next step, and I believe God reveals the next step. The next thing you’re supposed to do.

If you’re really called to be a writer, I think getting great ideas for books is something that will almost come naturally. One of the quotes I use in my workshops at conferences is the Wayne Gretzky quote. He was a great hockey player. Somebody asked him why he was so successful. He said, “Well, other hockey players go where the puck is. I go where the puck is going next.” 

I think if writers can visualize a year or two ahead, what’s happening that will be impacting people a year or two from now, that’s ideal. If a writer two years ago could say, “Hmm, I wonder what would happen if there were a pandemic to come along” or, you know, just whatever.

The ideas are out there. If you’re going to be a writer, be a catcher of ideas.

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Not every idea will be one that has your name on it, but a lot of them will. Those are the ones you need to follow up on and say, “Can I write this? Is there a market for this?” And then go for it. 

Don’t be discouraged if you get some nos along the way. Be willing to pull the plug on the idea if you come to the place where you say, “I’m losing my interest in this.” Or, “I can see that the public is not going to be looking for this in the next year or two.” Don’t be discouraged when you have to cut loose some ideas and go to the next one.

I have a list on my computer of fifty-four book ideas. If I get to do five of them before I leave the planet, I’ll be happy. Those ideas, almost every month I shift. Idea number five, I think, “Oh gosh, that’s really timely. I’m going to move that up to number two.” All the time I’m working on the proposals for the ones that are, say, on my top five or 10.

Sometimes something will happen and then I’ll say, “Oh man, that’s a lousy idea after all.” And it’ll go from number five to number 54 really quick. But just trying to be proactive as a writer.

A lot of people who don’t succeed as writers do it as a hobby. Maybe that’ll work for you, but I think it lessens your chances. You really need to think of your writing as your calling. As an assignment from God. As your mission from God and be serious about it. Plow ahead and do what’s necessary. Improve your writing craft, learn marketing skills, and go to conferences when they start up again.

Nowadays, there are conferences that are online mostly, but there are still good Christian writers’ conferences to be had. Listen to podcasts, like Write from the Deep. And I encourage writers to check out the blogs of agents and other successful writers and editors. Immerse yourself in the industry. Know what’s out there. Those are all the things that I think are ingredients for success as a writer.

Karen: Professionally.

Erin: Yeah. 

Karen: So how about spiritually? 

Nick: Spiritually, that’s sort of the key. I think you’ve gotta be called. You’ve got to know and be sensitive. Let me give you an example. The book I’m working on now is a devotional for Christians in recovery from substance abuse or whatever. It’s like my One-Minute Prayers for Those with Cancer. It’s a book that I wish there was no market for, but unfortunately there’s a huge market for it. Let me tell you briefly how that began. 

I had been at OCW––Oregon Christian Writers Conference. It’s in Portland. On my way home, I stopped to see my daughter who lives in Portland. We went to Starbucks. It was a walkup Starbucks. And the fellow in front of me was a young man in his early twenties. He was obviously on some drug. He made his order and then he turned around to me, and he handed me his Starbucks gift card.

He said, “Here, do you want this? It’s got a couple of dollars left on it?” I thanked him and said, “No, you go ahead. Use it next time you’re here.”

He said, “No, if you don’t take it, I’m going to throw it away.” So I took it and thanked him. It was at that moment that I just felt such a well of compassion for this young man.

Within the next 48 hours, there were two or three other instances where I came across somebody who obviously was under the influence of some sort of substance. There was some substance abuse in their life. 

Putting two and two together, and combining it with this compassion that I felt for that young man, I thought, “How can these people be helped? How can God help these people? God, would you let me try to write a book on that?” Out of that has come the proposal and now the offer from Tyndale house, so I’m doing it. It’s like a year and a half later, two years later, and I’m excited about it. 

As far as the spiritual aspect of it, I pray now for those future readers of that book. I still pray for the readers of the One-Minute Prayers for Those with Cancer every day. I try to pray for my readers, wherever they are, that God would bless them.

I just posted on Facebook yesterday: One-Minute Prayers When You Need a Miracle. A lady had sent into my publisher Harvest House that a nurse had given her that book when her husband was in the hospital for a heart condition. Unfortunately he passed away just last Sunday, but she was so blessed by the book that she ordered twelve more copies.

They forwarded that message to me and it’s like, “Thank you, Lord.” It’s validation. It’s confirmation. It’s motivation to write more and just to believe God for greater impact. I’m not a household name, and I never will be, but God seems to be able to cover that. To make sure that the right people get my books.

That’s my prayer daily, too, is that my books would get into the hands of people that really need them, and their lives would be changed because of them. 

Erin: I love that.

Karen:  That’s having the right motivation. That’s having the motivation of writing to serve and to help and to bless, rather than writing with the motivation of “I’m going to make lots of money at this.”

Erin: Right. 

Karen: Because that doesn’t happen that often in publishing. But yeah, that’s powerful.

Erin: It’s nice because this is something that writers can do every day, even if they’re not published yet. You can pray for future readers. You can pray for people you want to reach. You can pray for, maybe you have seven books out there, you can pray for people who are getting those books. I think it keeps you connected with your passion for people. It keeps you connected to the whole point. 

I want to circle back just for a minute and say I like what you said, Nick, that it’s okay to also give up ideas. Maybe we had a passion for a particular idea, and that doesn’t mean that that’s the book that has to be your path to publication or even published at all.

You can be like, “You know what? I’ve kind of lost my passion for that particular topic.” But some people may feel a little bit trapped like that. Like, “Oh no, I have to keep doing this book because that’s what God called me to.” Well, maybe that was just how you got into writing. Maybe that was just the idea that sparked you. So it’s okay. If you’ve prayed about it, it’s okay to let go of some of those ideas and move on to something else that might be a new passion. I love that freedom that you give to writers to do that. 

Nick: Well, I do. But you know, honestly, when I cut loose of an idea, I don’t totally cut loose. What I do is I move it to the bottom of the list. It becomes number fifty-four, because I’ve discovered that two or three years later something might happen either within me or circumstantially in the world. Then I think, “Wait a minute, maybe it’s time to give that another go.”

So I never really fully kill off an idea, but I just say this is on the back burner for now. Maybe forever it’ll be on the back burner, but be willing to just put it aside for now. There have been a few times where God has told me, “No. You’re not going to write that book. It’s not going to happen.” So I have to be obedient to that. No matter how much I may want to, I just know that that’s not for me.

Karen: Well, Nick, it’s been such a delight to have you here with us, and clearly you’ve got more to say, so clearly we need to have you come visit us again some time. Do you have any final words of wisdom or encouragement for our listeners today?

Nick: I guess I would just say, be persistent in prayer and persistent in your writing. Be willing to say, “God, if you do not want me to be a writer, make that plain,” just as if you were praying, “God, if you want me to be a writer, make that plain.”

I think there are people who would like to write, but honestly, God may have something else for them to do. Just be very confident of your assignment from God.

If it is writing, praise the Lord and just do the things that you know to do. Go to online conferences or in person conferences, when they happen. Read the blogs. Improve your craft the best way you can, either by taking local classes, reading books, etc. I hope aspiring writers or even successful writers have––you probably both do––at least a bookshelf full of your favorite writing books.

Karen: Yeah. 

Nick: Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott, or Stephen King’s On Writing. They’re just some excellent resources out there. Fall in love with your assignment from God if you’re called to be a writer, because it’s a great, great calling. 

Erin: Right. 

Karen: Amen. That’s wonderful. Thank you so much. 

Erin: Thanks, Nick. 

Nick: Happy to do it. I enjoyed it very much.

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One-Minute Prayers for Those with Cancer by Nick Harrison

One Minute Prayers for Those with Cancer by Nick Harrison

One-Minute Prayers When You Need a Miracle by Nick Harrison

One Minute Prayers When You Need a Miracle by Nick Harrison

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